{"id":925,"date":"2014-08-29T15:16:58","date_gmt":"2014-08-29T20:16:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/?p=925"},"modified":"2014-08-29T15:22:08","modified_gmt":"2014-08-29T20:22:08","slug":"vaccines-are-still-good-for-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/2014\/08\/29\/vaccines-are-still-good-for-you\/","title":{"rendered":"Vaccines are still good for you"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>People seem to have been talking about some new reports that claim (yet again) a connection between vaccines and autism. The latest versions go further, alleging a cover-up by the CDC. The most important thing to know about this is that the overwhelming scientific consensus remains that vaccines are <em>not<\/em> linked to autism. They do, on the other hand, prevent vast amounts of suffering due to preventable diseases. The anti-vaccine folks do enormous harm.<\/p>\n<p>(Although I have a few other things to say, the main point of this piece is to link to an excellent <a href=\"http:\/\/allendowney.blogspot.com\/2014\/08\/new-study-vaccines-prevent-disease-and.html\">post<\/a> by Allen Downey. The link is below, but it&#8217;s mixed in with a bunch of other stuff, so \u00a0I thought I&#8217;d highlight it up here.)<\/p>\n<p>The usual pro-science people (e.g., <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/blogs\/bad_astronomy\/2014\/08\/27\/anti_vax_cdc_conspiracy_theory_sweeping_the_social_media.html\">Phil Plait)<\/a> have jumped on this most recent story, stating correctly that the new report is bogus. They tend to link to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencebasedmedicine.org\/did-a-high-ranking-whistleblower-really-reveal-that-the-cdc-covered-up-proof-that-vaccines-cause-autism-in-african-american-boys\/\">two<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.harpocratesspeaks.com\/2014\/08\/andrew-wakefield-tortures-history.html\">articles<\/a> explaining why, but I&#8217;d rather steer you toward a <a href=\"http:\/\/allendowney.blogspot.com\/2014\/08\/new-study-vaccines-prevent-disease-and.html\">piece<\/a> by my old friend Allen Downey. Unlike the other articles, Allen explains one specific way in which the new study is wrong.<\/p>\n<p>The error Allen describes is a common one. People often claim that a result is &#8220;statistically significant&#8221; if it has a &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/2014\/02\/18\/nature-on-p-values\/\">p-value<\/a>&#8221; below 5%. This means that there is only a 5% chance of a false positive &#8212; that is, if there is no real effect, you&#8217;d be fooled into thinking there was an effect 5% of the time. Now suppose that you do 20 tests. The odds are very high in that case that at least one of them will be &#8220;significant&#8221; at the 5% level. People often draw attention to these positive results while sweeping under the rug the other tests that didn&#8217;t show anything. As far as I can tell, Allen&#8217;s got the goods on these guys, demonstrating convincingly that that&#8217;s what they did.<\/p>\n<p>The other pieces I&#8217;ve read debunking the recent study have tended to focus on the people involved, pointing out (correctly, as far as I know) that they&#8217;ve made bogus arguments in the past, that they have no training in statistics or epidemiology, etc. Some people say that you shouldn&#8217;t pay any attention to considerations like that: all that matters is the content of the argument, and <em>ad hominem<\/em> considerations are irrelevant. That&#8217;s actually not true. Life is short. If you hear an argument from someone who&#8217;s always been wrong before, you might quite rationally decide that it&#8217;s not worth your time to figure out why it&#8217;s wrong. Combine that with a strong prior belief (tons of other evidence have shown no vaccine-autism link), and perfectly sound Bayesian reasoning (or as I like to call it, &#8220;reasoning&#8221;) tells you to discount the new claims. So before I saw Allen&#8217;s piece, I was pretty convinced that the new results were wrong.<\/p>\n<p>But despite all that, it&#8217;s clearly much better if someone is willing to do the public service of figuring out why it&#8217;s wrong and explaining it clearly. This is pretty much the reason that I bothered to figure out in detail that <a href=\"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/2009\/03\/01\/accepted-2\/\">evolution doesn&#8217;t violate the laws of thermodynamics<\/a>: there was no doubt about the conclusion, but because the bogus argument continues to get raised, it&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/2009\/03\/08\/whos-the-audience\/\">good<\/a> to be able to point people towards an explanation of \u00a0exactly why it&#8217;s wrong.<\/p>\n<p>So thanks, Allen!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>People seem to have been talking about some new reports that claim (yet again) a connection between vaccines and autism. The latest versions go further, alleging a cover-up by the CDC. The most important thing to know about this is that the overwhelming scientific consensus remains that vaccines are not linked to autism. They do, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/2014\/08\/29\/vaccines-are-still-good-for-you\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Vaccines are still good for you<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6957,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-925","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/925","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6957"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=925"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/925\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=925"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=925"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/create.richmond.edu\/physicsbunn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=925"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}